1 1 HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF NEWARK 2 NEWARK, NEW JERSEY 3 THURSDAY, JANUARY 26, 2023 4 x--------------------------------x 5 IN THE MATTER OF: * 6 THE REGULAR MEETING * TRANSCRIPT 7 OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY * OF 8 OF THE CITY OF NEWARK * PROCEEDINGS 9 Commencing at 5:00 p.m. * 10 x--------------------------------x 11 HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF NEWARK 12 500 BROAD STREET 13 NEWARK, NEW JERSEY 14 B E F O R E: 15 HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF NEWARK 16 NORMA GONZALEZ, President (Absent) 17 BRIAN LOGAN, Commissioner 18 ALIF MUHAMMAD, Commissioner 19 IMAM DAUD HAQQ, Commissioner 20 PATRICK COUNCIL, Commissioner 21 LINDA WASHINGTON, Commissioner 22 23 24 ANTHONY HOFMANN, C.C.R. 25 LICENSE NO. XIO1854 2 1 PROFESSIONAL STAFF: 2 3 VICTOR CIRILO, Executive Director 4 KATIA OLIVEIRA, Executive Assistant 5 ELIO MENA, Counsel 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3 1 I N D E X 2 PAGE 3 Opening Statement 4 4 Public Participation 5 By: Myrna Brown 10 6 By: Anna Bell 15 7 By: Felicia Alston Singleton 18 8 9 Special Presentation 6 10 11 Items for Approval 26 12 13 RESOLUTIONS PAGE 14 H-1 through H-11 44 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4 1 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, we are 2 ready whenever you are. 3 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Let's get 4 started. Today is Thursday, January 26th, 2023. 5 The time is now 5:19 p.m. 6 MR. CIRILO: A reading of the Open 7 Public Meetings Act as required by N.J.S.A. 10:4-6 8 known as the Open Public Meetings Act, notice of 9 this meeting was provided in the following manner. 10 On December 6, 2022 notice of the meeting specifying 11 the date, time and location was transmitted to the 12 Star Ledger, El Especialito, Luso Americano and to 13 the Clerk of the City of Newark. 14 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Can we get 15 Commissioner Haqq to open up for the prayer for us. 16 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: All mighty God, we 17 give you praise and we give you thanks. We thank 18 you for all the numerous favors and bounties which 19 you share with us. We ask you that bless our 20 meeting, bless our gathering together here to 21 discuss the affairs of the community and to bless 22 all the operations and bring us to a good 23 conclusion. We thank you for all your mercies. 24 Amen. 25 (Whereupon, the Pledge of Allegiance 5 1 was recited.) 2 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Roll call. 3 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, I would 4 like to introduce to the Board, Commissioner Linda 5 Washington. She was recently sworn in as of 6 yesterday as the new Commissioner appointed by the 7 City Council and the Mayor's office. Ms. Washington 8 will continue serving as the resident Commissioner 9 of the Board of Commissioners. 10 Welcome, Commissioner Washington. 11 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Thank you. 12 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Mr. Chair, just 13 also I want to welcome Ms. Washington onto the 14 Commissioners Board and we know that her work in the 15 community already has been diligent in fighting for 16 those individuals that we continue to hope as she 17 brings that kind of effort and zeal onto the 18 Commissioners Board as well. 19 MR. CIRILO: Roll call. 20 Commissioner Washington. 21 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Here. 22 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 23 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Here. 24 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 25 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Present. 6 1 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 2 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Here. 3 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 4 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Here. 5 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, we have a 6 quorum. 7 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Let us begin with 8 the public participation part. 9 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner, 10 we have in the bylaws we are supposed to have our 11 annual meeting first. 12 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Can we get 13 through this regular meeting and we can do that 14 afterwards. 15 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: That's up to 16 Elio. 17 MR. MENA: That's what the bylaws 18 spell out, after the regular meeting. 19 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: No problem, 20 thank you. 21 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, we have a 22 special presentation today. We do have some 23 retirees that are here. Is Mr. George Jefferson 24 here, Mr. Jefferson. Not here. Mr. Jefferson 25 served the Housing Authority for thirty-eight years 7 1 dedicated service. He is not present today. The 2 plaque reads the Newark Housing Authority awards 3 this certificate to George Jefferson, maintenance 4 repair, and wishes to express the sincere thanks and 5 gratitude for your thirty-eight years of dedicated 6 service. Your wisdom and commitment to excellence 7 has long inspired all of us and will be remembered 8 for many years to come. We wish you good health, 9 happiness and continued success in your retirement. 10 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner 11 Logan, may I speak? 12 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 13 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I knew him 14 when he was a little boy. I'd like to -- can I 15 accept it on his behalf, E.D.? 16 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: You may accept it 17 on his behalf. 18 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Who's taking 19 the picture. 20 MR. CIRILO: Thank you for accepting 21 the plaque. 22 Is Michael Allen here? Michael, come 23 up here, Michael. So Michael served in the capacity 24 of maintenance mechanic thirty years of service, not 25 quite thirty-eight. On behalf of the Housing 8 1 Authority, I'd like to read this for the record. 2 Michael which, by the way, the minutes are in the 3 back room where Mr. Lima is standing. If you go in 4 that room you will see minutes going back to 1938 so 5 whatever we say on the record it is in here forever 6 of the record of the Housing Authority. 7 Michael Allen, the Housing Authority 8 wishes to express its sincere thanks and gratitude 9 for your thirty years of dedicated service. Your 10 wisdom and commitment to excellence have long 11 inspired all of us and will be remembered for many 12 years to come. We wish you good health, happiness 13 and continued success in your retirement. Many 14 blessings to you and your family. 15 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Congratulations. 16 Thirty years of anything is special. 17 MR. CIRILO: And for the record, 18 again, we also have three additional retirees that 19 have left us in the last thirty days, thirty to 20 sixty days, Renard McCray, maintenance supervisor, 21 thirty-three years of service. Robert Zang, IT 22 programmer and developer, twenty-five years of 23 service. And Janice Sanders Moia, twenty years 24 administrative secretary for the redevelopment 25 department. 9 1 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 2 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Are we ready for 3 the public participation part? 4 MR. CIRILO: Yes, Mr. Chairman. In 5 accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act, the 6 Housing Authority opens every public meeting for 7 comments from the public. Each person choosing to 8 speak at meetings will be limited to five minutes to 9 speak on any subject on or off the agenda. All 10 speakers must state their name and address for the 11 record. However, in accordance with N.J.S.A. 12 10:4-12 nothing in the act shall construe to limit 13 the discretion of a public body to permit, prohibit 14 or regulate the act of participation at any meeting. 15 Therefore, please be advised that the Housing 16 Authority of the City of Newark will not entertain 17 any comments from persons who communicate obscene 18 material, make statements which are considered bias 19 intimidation in which a person intends to intimidate 20 any individual or group because of race, color, 21 religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation or 22 ethnicity or makes comments intending to harass or 23 speak in any offensive language. 24 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Call our first 25 speaker. 10 1 MR. CIRILO: Yes, first speaker, Mr. 2 Chairman, we have Ms. Kim Barnes. Kim Barnes. 3 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Kim Barnes not 4 appearing. 5 MR. CIRILO: Our second speaker is 6 Ms. Myrna Brown. 7 Ms. Brown. 8 MS. BROWN: I am here. Good evening. 9 This is not a new year. This Housing Authority and 10 I want y'all to know you did not follow the law. 11 You are not following the state law or the federal 12 law and congratulations to her and I am not jealous, 13 but we are going to do it right. The Mayor do not 14 appoint our people. Your jurisdiction if you are 15 not the tenants has a right, every tenant. It ain't 16 got to be me. Section 8 people have a right to be 17 in that seat if they choose to. This Board, this 18 agency was supposed to notify every resident that 19 that seat was vacant just like you vote for them 20 tenant presidents, tenant associations, that seat is 21 supposed to be -- twenty years ago Ida Clark sat 22 there. She got there because it was a jurisdiction 23 wide and once that stopped, the tenants voted for 24 her to still be there. No tenants know about this. 25 It is not right. If she got it she got it, but I 11 1 want her to be clear and let her know she don't 2 represent just the public and y'all have somebody 3 sitting there before with the same issue, I told 4 y'all that. You got programs in here, yes, Section 5 8. Don't just follow the public side, she got to 6 know the Section 8 rules because I am coming for 7 them. I am coming for y'all. You're breaking the 8 law and you are getting our monies and it is 9 ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Me and Ms. 10 Washington fought a lot of foughts for these 11 residents and I'm supporting her and I want her to 12 be supportive for us. Don't sit up there and be a 13 yes, ma'am when these tenants got issues. Speak up 14 for us and if you are not going to speak up for us, 15 there is ways to remove. Nobody's above the law. 16 So I want y'all to know because you 17 have been neglecting the Section 8 people. It's 18 been neglected through this agency. The department 19 is okay, I got them. I deal with Mr. Knight if 20 something is wrong, but there is still other issues 21 that the agency get that has to be done, that the 22 people need to know. Because you are going into RAD 23 and the RAD is going to be -- I know a lot. I have 24 been here for a long time and I study. I can tell 25 all y'all how you got on here and who you got to get 12 1 here. My time is running out. I need y'all 2 Commissioners should have these books. Everybody 3 should have a book. You should have the plan up 4 there with a note book to take notes for us. Or go 5 back in there and see what we are saying and see if 6 it is right. 7 Now, I ain't got that much time 8 because I will have to come back next month, but the 9 first one I want to know about. When these agencies 10 give cars to these directors, forty thousand 11 dollars, yeah, I said it. I will say it again, 12 forty thousand dollars for a car. The human 13 resource never in my life in this public housing had 14 a car. When these people leave, I didn't get my 15 answers what happened to that car. Y'all approved 16 forty thousand dollars that could pay for these 17 people. If you want to give a car give, give it to 18 Mr. Mangan, he goes through this whole City for 19 these residents. That is who should have a car. 20 Take her's and give it to him. Enough is enough. 21 We got things going on here. Let's start this year 22 and let's do it right because this agency is just 23 falling apart. Falling apart from top to the 24 bottom, your employees. I had to call Mr. Foster. 25 He got back for some issues that should not have 13 1 been me. People call. You got somebody's plumbing 2 backing up in their house. Manager don't want to do 3 nothing. They knew about it. Feces going in this 4 lady's house. She's mopping it up. They have to go 5 shower somewhere and I ain't really get to all my 6 questions because I was pissed, not her, per your 7 agency. I shouldn't have to call Mr. Foster, but he 8 took care of it and I want to thank him and you 9 brought him back to a lot of mess and she's not 10 here, but I wanted to tell her don't go at him like 11 that because he got to pull up this mess that is 12 here and sort it out before she attacked him. I 13 know a lot going on. I see and I know and I know 14 like you know people, but this is the things that 15 are going on and enough is enough. Enough is 16 enough. I'm part of this project. I got money from 17 me, my family, my friends, my cousins, my aunts, my 18 uncles too and if you didn't get this Federal 19 Government from us money, you wouldn't sit there. 20 You wouldn't put it in your pocket. Somebody is 21 getting our money. I don't know what pocket it is 22 going in, but it better come out. 23 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Thank you, 24 Ms. Brown. 25 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Could you hand 14 1 this out. 2 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Commissioner 3 Muhammad. 4 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Thank you. 5 What happened was I have been hearing this from 6 Ms. Brown and Ms. Barnes for about a month since I 7 got here. Ms. Barnes I don't know if y'all know. 8 She is kind of bold. She came to my office and we 9 have a saying in Islam, we call it the leal. She 10 brought her information and I brought my information 11 and when I looked, you guys are right so I want to 12 apologize. There is a section under HUD 964-420, 13 resident board meetings members must be elected. So 14 I want to apologize, you know, because I didn't 15 believe you guys, but I apologize. So it says that 16 like you said it is going to be thirty days. Now, 17 this is not in any way to knock Ms. Washington. I 18 like Commissioner Washington. She's sworn in now, 19 God willing I mean God bless her to do her five 20 years because she's been an advocate, but you guys 21 were right. I brought out my papers and everything 22 and I started digging. Elio, did I give you a copy 23 of this? 24 MR. MENA: No, you didn't. 25 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Could you look 15 1 into this and see if they are legally right because 2 in my reading it says that it is 964-420. 3 MR. MENA: All right, thank you. 4 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Thank you. 5 MS. BROWN: You will also get the 6 state, I have that one too. 7 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Thank you. 8 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Will you be 9 around after the meeting? 10 MS. BROWN: I sure will. I have 11 nothing but time as long as it is right. 12 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: I'd like to talk 13 with you. 14 Next. 15 MR. CIRILO: Yes, Mr. Chairman, the 16 next speaker is Ms. Viola Thomas. Ms. Thomas. 17 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Ms. Viola Thomas, 18 not appearing. 19 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, the next 20 speaker is Anna Bell. Anna Bell. 21 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Anna Bell. 22 MS. BELL: Just a minute. Good 23 evening to all. 24 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Good evening. 25 MS. BELL: I was going to ask about 16 1 the painting of the apartments. We got to make this 2 plan. Does the money roll over into the next year 3 and if so what do we have to do to get painting. I 4 have been there fifteen years. I have been there 5 since 2008. It is 2023. It needs painting. Y'all 6 have to come up with a solution because I am not 7 coming out-of-pocket to get my place painted when 8 there is already money there for it to be painted 9 and, second, my daughter had -- and this is 10 personal, this is my daughter and this is my 11 granddaughter. The manager did not send out the 12 paperwork stating that they wanted to come and do an 13 inspection. My granddaughter is twenty years old 14 and she has an illness. Four housing men came up 15 the stairs. My granddaughter came out the bathroom 16 she wasn't dressed properly. She freaked out and 17 that is not acceptable. I would like for y'all to 18 look into it because somebody needs to answer 19 because now my daughter has to deal with her 20 daughter in crisis again because she was once a 21 victim. Do you know what it's like for someone to 22 come in your house and then saying they rung a bell 23 and they knocked on the door. No, they did not. My 24 granddaughter is in crisis. I want information and 25 I want to know who did what and what was done 17 1 because now my daughter child is in crisis, okay. I 2 don't know what is going on with this manager. She 3 called and the assistant manager answered and she 4 wasn't very polite to my daughter. She said I will 5 tell her, she's at lunch. She never called my child 6 back, okay. My granddaughter is all screwed up and 7 we are going through crisis again because protocol 8 was not followed. My daughter didn't get a phone 9 call. The lady didn't put nothing in her mailbox, 10 no note was on the door. Total violation that we 11 got to deal with because they did not follow 12 through. Yeah, I'm hurting. I am hurting real bad 13 because that is my family. It is 197 Peshine Avenue 14 and I want answers and I want them to call me and 15 call my daughter and we need to sit down and we need 16 to rectify this. How she is going to work and she 17 got to worry about her child in crisis because 18 Housing Authority didn't follow protocol. It is 19 unfair. 20 Y'all have a good evening and 21 Mr. Mangan do need a car. Y'all believe me, you can 22 find some way in the budget to give him a car. I 23 appreciate it. Y'all have a good evening. I expect 24 y'all to get back to me ASAP. I don't mean three 25 weeks, I mean ASAP. 18 1 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner 2 Logan. 3 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes, Mr. 4 Muhammad. 5 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: E.D., what is 6 this? 7 MR. CIRILO: This is an incident 8 report on what Ms. Anna Bell just reported on. This 9 is the incident report from the site manager's 10 office, what happened on that day. What I can do 11 and I know you didn't ask me that is to confirm its 12 veracity. It seems like there were several 13 witnesses to what happened so the stories don't seem 14 to match based on this report so I will follow up 15 and confirm with the witness to figure out what the 16 story is. 17 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Thank you. 18 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Next speaker, 19 Felicia Alston, is she available. 20 MS. SINGLETON: Good afternoon, 21 Commissioners. I first wanted to thank Michael who 22 just retired. He was one of my maintenance men and 23 him brother Jesse and Munoz was there and they did 24 an excellent job. Mike did the job right. Michael 25 come in on weekends and do your work when I had 19 1 piping heating issues, the man, you know, Mike got 2 it done. I was on 15th Avenue and he came over to 3 12th Avenue with me. I appreciate Mike and he 4 deserves everything and probably a little bonus to 5 get something together. It is sad I first want to 6 say you are not televising the meetings anymore. 7 They are not on Facebook. You don't have it 8 convenient for people where they could do Zoom. We 9 have came into a society where normal is not normal 10 anymore. So we should make it convenient for 11 everyone who may not feel up to their best to come 12 out at night. It is getting cold. It is dark 13 outside. We should make certain efforts for 14 speakers to speak, but I also came here tonight for 15 Georgia King Village and I have the district leader 16 with me tonight, big thing at City Hall. Code 17 enforcement didn't do their job. People here in the 18 Housing Authority are losing vouchers because code 19 enforcement didn't do their job and the building 20 manager L and M didn't get the thing done correctly. 21 Now, you know, I call the Housing 22 Authority, I get the results done, but at the end of 23 the day we shouldn't have to bother Victor Cirilo. 24 We shouldn't have to, like Ms. Brown said, call Mr. 25 Knight because it's supposed to be done within that 20 1 individual worker working with the residents. 2 I am going to say congratulations to 3 Ms. Linda Washington, but Myrna Brown is right and 4 we brought these same concerns, Ms. Washington, when 5 Baez was sitting there. We said the very exact same 6 thing. Matter of fact, let's be real. Ms. Brown, 7 me and you turned in our resumes to the Mayor, 8 didn't we. We turned our resumes into the Mayor to 9 be a resident Commissioner. Me myself I don't want 10 to section myself off just for that seat because I 11 will be for the Housing Authority and Section 8 RAD 12 program, but I work for the residents throughout the 13 entire City of Newark. 14 The Housing Authority is stepping in 15 to help Georgia King Village get their action plan 16 together because the Housing Authority funds Georgia 17 King Village. Let's say that, let's be real about 18 it. How many fair market apartments in Georgia King 19 Village really because if you go back to the 20 records, seventy-five of those vouchers is building 21 in that new building that was got by me and Keith 22 Kinard. So I want y'all to keep in mind that the 23 Housing Authority is the biggest development, the 24 largest development agency in the City. If y'all 25 don't get it together, I am coming after you. I 21 1 have been here. You know what I do. You know my 2 work. If you don't, Google me. When Keith Kinard 3 was sitting there. Mo Butler tried to throw me out 4 and Charlie Bell wouldn't let him throw me out, but 5 at the end of the day this is what we come to. 6 Another year of problems. Another year of people 7 housing being in jeopardy. Scattered sites was we 8 don't want RAD. We don't want RAD. So I am going 9 to fight you on that. You are going to be a Housing 10 Authority. You are going to have some type of 11 housing not just owning land. I don't want that. 12 You have to have some type of public housing so we 13 want to keep scattered sites west. We are scattered 14 so it really doesn't matter. Keep us in the Housing 15 Authority. We want to keep public housing alive. 16 Charlie Bell said it best. He says the Housing 17 Authority is getting out of the housing business and 18 that is what you are doing with RAD. If you don't 19 stop with the Section 8 vouchers because Housing 20 Authority secures residents housing. You want to 21 know why Housing Authority, we have individual 22 managers that work with us, asset manages that work 23 with us. They come in, they help us. We have the 24 maintenance on staff. When you don't have that 25 connection here to the Housing Authority, what 22 1 happens to the RAD? People are going to lose it 2 with the quickness. Section 8 you can look stupid 3 and they are going to take your voucher from you. 4 You don't even have to say I didn't come to the 5 inspection, I didn't hand in my paperwork. You go 6 like this. I ain't turn the light on, termination, 7 termination easily. People disabled, sick, kids, it 8 is not what we are doing in the City. We are 9 supposed to love our neighbors. We supposed to 10 protect the residents of the City. The Housing 11 Authority has the most land in the City. If y'all 12 don't get it together, I am going to get federal 13 monitors to come in here. It's time we cut it out. 14 Thank you. 15 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner 16 Logan. 17 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Commissioner 18 Muhammad. 19 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Ms. Alston, we 20 are on it. Commissioner Council, we are on it and 21 let me tell you like I was telling the TA over 22 there. My granddaughter and I have three great 23 grandkids at Georgia King Village, you know, so we 24 are on it. I think we are supposed to have a report 25 today. 23 1 MS. SINGLETON: Walk the site. Why 2 can't the Commissioners walk the site? If the money 3 is coming from the Housing Authority, you guys 4 should be walking that site. 5 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I can tell you 6 one thing. If we don't get the right report today 7 and they allow me in the building, I will take 8 Commissioner Council with me. I will walk the 9 building, but I'm telling you I got skin in the 10 game. My granddaughter, my oldest granddaughter and 11 three great grandkids. I just wanted to say that, 12 thank you. 13 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: I got skin in the 14 game too. I walk the building. I used to work at 15 the building as security. I visited some of them 16 basements in them townhouses so I know exactly what 17 you are talking about. Hector Cachado was my 18 partner in the police department. We walk Seth 19 Boyden together. So he understands how I feel about 20 that and we are going to bring this back downtown 21 and see. I mean it's been like that for a while 22 because I have been screaming for a while so I know 23 exactly what you are talking about. 24 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Commissioner. 25 Point of clarity. We had asked for those 24 1 individuals that had Section 8 vouchers that came 2 from Housing Authority. I believe it was about 3 seventy or seventy-five apartments. 4 MR. CIRILO: Correct. 5 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: That we would 6 do our own separate inspection to make sure that 7 information was on record outside of what other 8 entities maybe doing it. So that we can be able to 9 have that data for ourselves and if need be to 10 present it or to work with to find other remedies 11 for the individuals that are in the facilities. So 12 I just wanted to make sure that we are still 13 appraised of getting our own inspections done in 14 that facility so we can document what those 15 individuals are saying and what the information is 16 so that we can be able to move accordingly on this 17 end. 18 MR. CIRILO: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, 19 if I may. 20 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 21 MR. CIRILO: I want to thank 22 Commissioner Council for clarifying that. We 23 have -- since our work session we have had 24 conversations with the ownership at Georgia King 25 Village just to let them know we will be performing 25 1 an assessment, physical inspections. Someone noted 2 we need to give folks proper notice, proper protocol 3 so we want to have that until all the special 4 inspections are completed. 5 I have spoken to Mr. Knight about also 6 assessing the history of each unit that is assisted 7 via voucher and, lastly, we want to make sure that, 8 again, that we don't want anyone being 9 disenfranchised in terms of their access to housing. 10 I know that there are some folks that because of a 11 failed inspection may stand to lose the voucher so 12 regulations are flexible. We can extend the timing 13 so long as the repairs get done and completed. 14 There is a meeting tomorrow between Mr. Knight's 15 team and the representatives of Georgia King Village 16 so we are already working on the matter. We will 17 not have a report today, but as I stated we need to 18 give advance notice to start doing those special 19 inspections. 20 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Thank you, 21 Director. Anyone else? I don't see you. Are you 22 on the list? 23 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No, I'm not. 24 Do I have to be on the list? 25 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 26 1 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Okay, next 2 time. The inspectors are not doing their job for 3 one thing and the owners. 4 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: We will talk 5 about it, Director. 6 MR. CIRILO: Yes, Mr. Chairman, the 7 next item for approval is the Board report. There 8 are some revisions so if Winston can join us just to 9 talk about what we have revised from the report that 10 was submitted. I know there was some questions last 11 week on the report. We were able to dig deep into 12 the data. Mr. Francis can explain and provide to 13 you a report that he feels has a degree of comfort 14 and he has clear statistics. 15 Can you talk a little bit about what 16 we did since the last Board meeting? 17 MR. FRANCIS: Good evening, 18 Commissioners, Assalamu alaikum. We went back into 19 the data and found where there were mistakes made in 20 terms of the numbers individually for sites whether 21 it was district two or three. We adjusted those. 22 The final grades if you notice in both of the 23 reports are still the same, but it was a problem 24 because individual sites would be held responsible 25 for the fact that they did not perform when, in 27 1 fact, they did based on the numbers. So we did a 2 comparison. We went back in, we got a little bit 3 more expert help in doing it because right now we 4 are making a move on the fact that we need to 5 strengthen the skills of the person who is doing it. 6 So the report that you see now is our latest effort 7 and we hope that what it says is to your liking and 8 that it pretends what is going to happen as we move 9 forward in the future. 10 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes, it is a 11 lot better, Francis. I don't have any questions for 12 you right now. E.D., we still got four hundred 13 apartments here vacant and the difference is because 14 the four other apartment buildings, when is that 15 going to start being reported to the RAD. We are 16 supposed to get a report for the RAD also. Emanuel 17 is not here today so I want to know to you, E.D., 18 how many apartments do we have available right now? 19 MR. CIRILO: According to the report 20 as of December 31, we had sixteen apartments 21 available for occupancy. 22 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Okay, we will 23 talk at the next meeting, God willing, on this. The 24 Section 8 answered my question on that number ten 25 where it was a zero. 28 1 MR. CIRILO: On the SEMAP ranking, 2 yes, so I don't know if Duane can answer the 3 question, but I can give you some background here. 4 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Timely annual 5 re-examinations. 6 MR. CIRILO: Correct, just to give you 7 some background, the SEMAP as you all know from our 8 trainings is the measurement of the performance of 9 the Section 8 program that HUD has put into place 10 called SEMAP, Section Eight Management Assessment 11 Performance and it has fourteen rankings. We are 12 extended a grade. Now, the way this works based on 13 regulation is you take a random sample from your 14 inventory of active participants and then you grade 15 them based on whatever category they fall in. So 16 that's how SEMAP works. It is a random sample of 17 activity of the program so in this case to your 18 question item number nine and Duane can add more if 19 he is still here and I don't cover everything. 20 What happens is that the SEMAP program 21 or the ranking system allows you ten points for the 22 review so if the sample, the random sample that is 23 taken off the files are reviewed show that all the 24 re-examinations or the research were done on time 25 you would receive ten points. In this case the 29 1 random sample it seems to have shown that the files 2 were not completed on time. The re-exams were not 3 done in a timely fashion and, therefore, there is a 4 zero ranking in that category. The overall rating 5 system extends to us a high performer status if we 6 score ninety percent of the aggregate which we did 7 score, but if we don't improve in this category then 8 we stand to lose the high performance status and go 9 to standard performer. 10 Mr. Knight, do you have anything else 11 to add with respect to timely annual re-exams or if 12 I misspoke to SEMAP? 13 MR. KNIGHT: Good afternoon, good 14 evening, Commissioners. My name is Duane Knight. 15 I'm the director of the Section 8 program. Yes, 16 Mr. Cirilo's comments explained the detail. We are 17 behind on the re-exams between shutdown, you know, 18 the ransomware attack coming out of the COVID and we 19 actually have a plan in process to catch up on the 20 items, but that is it, we are behind. 21 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Mr. Chair, so 22 there is a max and to examine the max there is also 23 in that time frame a point system that you can earn 24 so if the maximum is ten, then it says that the 25 point system could be anywhere from one to ten. 30 1 Zero meaning nothing, correct. So the fact is that 2 for us to get a zero in this category means that we 3 are desperately out of compliance in this area. So, 4 one, I definitely want to know why and, second, when 5 you talked about the plan, well, what is the plan to 6 move forward to correct this and then as we move 7 along, not just the plan to get us to the maximum 8 which is ten, but just the plan to get us on the 9 board. 10 So as we have been going through this 11 whole issue about Section 8 and looking at all the 12 different commonalities what is wrong what is not 13 wrong, how do we relate systems, how do we create 14 systems and put these things in place to be able to 15 lay out and now how it lays out in the document that 16 you can look at the empirical data and say based off 17 this, this is where we are, this is what we need to 18 be and the question is how do we get there. So the 19 question is how do we get there. 20 MR. KNIGHT: So we have a plan in 21 place and our plan is to -- we have already 22 on-boarded additional staff to support this effort. 23 We are in the process of adding an additional 24 project manager who will kind of project manager and 25 take that as a focus kind of getting those re-exams 31 1 back on track and also in turn to begin in terms of 2 going forward. When I say going forward, to ensure 3 that we are current moving forward, right, while 4 they address the late re-examinations. Our plan is 5 to actually begin doing recertification 6 appointments. Currently, re-exams, we do our 7 re-exams via mail where we mail the documentation 8 out to our clients and they mail the documents back 9 or drop them off and in that process if we need 10 additional income documents or additional bank 11 statements or something, we then send them a notice, 12 look, we need these additional docs and they in turn 13 follow it. So as a way to shorten and quicken the 14 time frame for completing the re-exams, our plan is 15 to go forward and start doing re-examination 16 appointments again. There was a time way before 17 COVID when there was a regular appointment scheduled 18 and clients would come in and there was that regular 19 interaction with our client population and we see 20 that this is problematic. We critically need to 21 re-establish that because part of it is our clients 22 after COVID got disconnected from us and we 23 disconnected from them. 24 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Is there a 25 possibility that there may be people that are out of 32 1 compliance? 2 MR. KNIGHT: Yes. See, part of it 3 is -- when I say out of compliance, I mean 4 incomplete documentation. Part of the complete 5 re-examination is that we need the client to submit 6 all the documentation as well. 7 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Income. 8 MR. KNIGHT: Income, assets. 9 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: So it all has a 10 compliance mechanism attached. So when we are 11 talking about examination compared to 12 re-examination, examining mean that we already did 13 it, we looked at the process under this, we 14 understand that this is where you fall. The re-exam 15 means "re" which is the prefix of do again means we 16 have to come back and look at it all over again to 17 make sure that you are still in compliance and so 18 the nature of us being at a zero means that we don't 19 know how many people based off the data is really 20 out of compliance that we need to get into 21 compliance which really has an effect 22 organizationally. That is what I am trying to say. 23 MR. KNIGHT: The re-examination 24 process, what it does is it is just an adjustment on 25 what their Section 8 payment will be. It is not -- 33 1 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: That is 2 critical. I just don't want to throw it out like it 3 is just -- 4 MR. KNIGHT: It is a critical 5 benchmark, but I was trying to just differentiate 6 that it doesn't mean, look, you get terminated from 7 the program. Technically, completing that 8 re-examination is a required part of the program, 9 but through COVID I mean through COVID it was 10 necessary for us to also be responsive to the 11 challenges of getting documentation to us as well. 12 So, but yes, in short we do have a plan. I am happy 13 to provide additional detail on it because I think 14 that is helpful. 15 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Please forward 16 the plan to the Board. 17 MR. CIRILO: Will do. Mr. Chairman, 18 couple things. A bit of good news to Commissioner 19 Council's point is that HUD has the data, they know 20 how many late re-exams are out there. The system is 21 so synchronized electronically that we do know who 22 and how many so that is a good starting point. So 23 if Mr. Duane's plan is aggressive, he can go back 24 and bring those folks in, get them recertified as 25 soon as possible, but it is a matter of how 34 1 aggressive his team is going to be to get this done 2 and we need to be aggressive because there is 3 something called a voucher management system. There 4 is a report that was issued where we found to be 5 troubled and this component is one of the reasons 6 why we become troubled in that system because that 7 system is the vehicle that drives the subsidy into 8 the Housing Authority to pay the landlord. If we 9 are not recertifying then we are not getting subsidy 10 where are we going to pay our landlords from. 11 So to your point, it is important that 12 these re-exams are up-to-date. There is an 13 allowance for a few percentage points, but we really 14 need to figure out and I will take it upon myself to 15 find out how many late recerts are in each program. 16 There is a report, HUD already called us on it and 17 they said, look, you guys need to address this as 18 soon as possible and we are requiring a report back 19 to HUD which we can share with this Board as well 20 because both programs suffer from late re-exams. 21 Public housing and the Section 8 program. 22 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner 23 Logan, I'm not going to talk too deep on this. We 24 need to go back to the proposal to find out who is 25 going to be our Section 8 provider because, you 35 1 know, I am big on Duane and I am really big on him, 2 but I don't see them having stability because they 3 have no contract. So we need to go back out and 4 have a proposal. 5 I think Commissioner Council mentioned 6 it last meeting. We need to give him a little 7 stability because I don't know how we're going to 8 hire somebody if you don't know you are going to 9 have the job, but I don't want to get deep into our 10 private situation. I think we need to go back and 11 get a proposal, that is all. 12 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Director. 13 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, I will 14 entertain a motion to approve the Board report. 15 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Motion on the 16 floor. 17 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: I make a motion 18 with all the necessary corrections. 19 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I will second 20 it. 21 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, on the 22 motion. 23 Commissioner Washington. 24 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 25 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 36 1 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 2 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 3 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 4 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 5 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 6 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 7 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 8 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 9 Next item is the December 22 Board 10 transcripts. I will entertain a motion. 11 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Motion on the 12 floor. 13 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Motion to 14 accept. 15 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I will second. 16 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, on the 17 motion. 18 Commissioner Washington. 19 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 20 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 21 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 22 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 23 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 24 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 25 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 37 1 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 2 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 3 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 4 Going to resolutions. 5 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Prior to the 6 resolutions, Executive Director, there was some 7 dialogue at the Council meeting in regard to 516 8 Bergen Street and I just wanted you to provide some 9 clarity to this body. Our understanding of the 10 direction of 516 Bergen Street as an individual 11 brought to the concern about the remediation of the 12 mold issues in some of the apartments and some other 13 minor things that are happening in the apartment and 14 so if you can just speak to this body about the 15 direction of 516 and the modality of abatement on 16 some issues that residents have some concerns about. 17 MR. CIRILO: Sure, 516 Bergen Street, 18 James C. White. The property is one of the 19 properties that we have earmarked for preservation. 20 We want to make sure that the life span of that 21 property is expanded so we have utilized the RAD 22 program to recapitalize the assets to gain a 23 windfall of funding to rehab the building. I don't 24 know the exact number. I don't know if anybody in 25 the audience does for that property of how much 38 1 money is being spent on rehab. So it is close to 2 ten million dollars in rehab that is starting now 3 for that property under the RAD program and real 4 quick, the benefits of the RAD program as we have 5 discussed are set rents that go up every year. 6 There is an adjustment that the federal government 7 extends to us. This year we are getting a 8 four percent increase in rents. These are increases 9 that don't exist on the public housing side which 10 means there is additional cash flow every year for 11 property improvements. In addition, we have project 12 based voucher that is put into every apartment and 13 that voucher also results in new found money that 14 didn't exist in the form of administrative fees. 15 So the three benefits of RAD are, 16 number one, you recapitalize so you bring in capital 17 to rehab the property. Number two, your rent 18 increases every year automatically over on average 19 of three percent and, lastly, you receive 20 administrative fees for that voucher that is 21 attached to the apartment. There is not much change 22 to the resident. The resident still pays 23 thirty percent of their income, follows the similar 24 lease, they still have access to the RAB meetings 25 and tenant participation funds, all rights and 39 1 regulations under the public housing program 2 transfer over to RAD. 3 To your question, so once you convert 4 to RAD there are environmental assessments that are 5 done of the property as part of the requirement of 6 the HUD. You do a lead assessment, you do a mold 7 assessment, you do ground assessment, you do an air 8 quality assessment, so on and so forth. So the 9 Housing Authority has been able to do all these 10 assessments so we know exactly the condition that 11 the property is in and we know exactly how to 12 earmark the new found or rehabilitation funds that 13 have come in. 14 So what are we doing at James C. White 15 at this point, we are going to put in new elevators. 16 We already have the contract for that. We are going 17 to be rehabbing some of the units and we are going 18 to be addressing some of the masonry problems. The 19 mason is cracking on the balconies. We need to make 20 sure that is a safe structure. So on and so forth. 21 There is numerous amount of repairs. The new 22 electrical system which is going to cost millions of 23 dollars. The electrical system that is not only 24 outdated, but obsolete according to the engineering 25 assessment. So all the electrical systems in that 40 1 property will be changed. Under RAD we needed to 2 bring in new staff that is more familiar with how to 3 manage under RAD which is a more stringent approach, 4 three percent vacancy rate, five percent expected 5 uncollected rents, no more, no less and also work 6 orders. Work orders to be addressed within four 7 days if it is a routine and twenty-four hours if it 8 is an emergency work order. So our staff is being 9 trained to be able to operate and manage the 10 property at those levels and that is monitored by 11 HUD and monitored by the financial institutions. So 12 that is what is happening now. 13 As it relates to your question on 14 mold, we have an assessment of all the units. 15 Inspections are going to be done since there is a 16 voucher similar to Georgia King Village there is a 17 voucher attached to that unit the has to pass 18 inspection once a year. So we guarantee that tenant 19 that it has been inspected and there is a passing 20 score in order for the Housing Authority to be able 21 to receive its subsidy from Section 8. So we will 22 look into the concerns that have been extended to 23 you about mold and we look at our assessments to see 24 how they match up and what we need to do in order to 25 be proactive because it is in our best interest to 41 1 do so. 2 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: So what that 3 means is even in this long range plan because I'm 4 hearing short-term and long range vision, but even 5 in the immediacy of abatement if there is still 6 issues that need to be abated immediately that does 7 not prevent, although you are doing this 8 environmental assessment, that doesn't prevent 9 abatement to happen immediately while other things 10 are transpiring through this whole process of 11 turning it over to RAD, is that correct? 12 MR. CIRILO: That's correct. We have 13 to address the deficiency, whatever deficiency 14 exist, they have to be addressed. We have a brand 15 new team there so we do have Ms. Rene Ali here who 16 is the RAD operations director and I am sure that 17 she will take an interest in what you said and we 18 are going to go back to James C. White and see what 19 units are having a mold issue. 20 MS. ALI: We need to know which ones. 21 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: We would point 22 out those areas. We can pinpoint remediation and 23 then advise because I think it is two part. One, I 24 think it is about the advisory capacity. We need to 25 advise the residents at 516 James C. White this is 42 1 what is happening and the same you just provided the 2 information to us to provide that information and 3 then to say any immediacy if there are some things 4 that may need to be abated we will work to abate 5 those things, but long range this is our long range 6 plan. So there may be some urgent things that may 7 need to be abated and there may be some small things 8 that can probably wait until this environmental 9 assessment of the property is done so that 10 everything can then be done in this kind of bulk 11 capacity to make sure the work is getting done, but 12 I think that needs to be a message. I think it is 13 important that we send a message so people can 14 really understand and know what is happening. 15 MR. CIRILO: Exactly. And just my 16 last point, Commissioner Council. Again, the 17 objective is always to make sure that there is a 18 quality apartment unit. That is the objective. I 19 personally inspected one of the units where a 20 resident with Ms. Ali that a resident was saying it 21 was mold. We went upstairs and there was no mold 22 conditions. So an inspection is critical when 23 someone claims something, we have to make sure that 24 we are proactive and I'm sure Ms. Ali and her team 25 will assure that there is a level of proactiveness. 43 1 We go upstairs and check the unit and witness 2 ourselves to assure that it is not something else or 3 that those conditions may have been mistaken for 4 something else. So I personally performed an 5 inspection of a report and I didn't find anything. 6 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner 7 Logan. 8 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes, Commissioner 9 Muhammad. 10 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: First, I want 11 to give props for the people that was at that 12 building before. I think that is one of our 13 buildings we passed the REAC at eighty-one percent 14 or something like that. So I want to give props to 15 the previous people there that was managing because 16 that was one of the better buildings. I am a victim 17 of RAD. I moved to the senior citizen seven years 18 ago, a private senior citizen, I seen the change. 19 If you come in my building, like I said, you think 20 you in Fort Lee, seriously. Like I heard Felicia, 21 RAD is a good thing for the tenants, it is a very 22 good thing. It hurts us in the Housing Authority 23 because we are not getting that money no more, but 24 as far as the tenants, it is a good thing and the 25 inspection is tougher because it is not Section 8. 44 1 I had a note when I came on my door my apartment has 2 been inspected three times so what I am telling you 3 it is a good thing, it is a good thing. Don't be 4 afraid of the word because it sounds like RAD, but 5 it is really a good thing, it is really a good 6 thing. It is a good thing. The only thing is that 7 the Housing Authority don't get the money no more. 8 Thank you, Commissioner Logan. 9 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Director. 10 MR. CIRILO: Yes, we can move to 11 resolutions if it is okay, Mr. Chairman. I don't 12 know if you want to go over the resolutions 13 regarding insurance individually or pass them as a 14 packet. 15 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: We can do one 16 through seven all the way through. 17 MR. CIRILO: So just to provide a 18 brief summary, Mr. Chairman, resolutions one through 19 seven renew our insurance coverages. We did have a 20 broker that looked and priced all the coverages out 21 in the market and these were the prices that were 22 most advantageous to the Housing Authority. One 23 through seven, these are for individual coverages, 24 property insurance, directors and officers 25 liability, excess insurance coverage on the general 45 1 liability Workers' Compensation, crime insurance, 2 boiler and machinery insurance and number six would 3 be auto insurance and environmental coverage 4 insurance number seven. 5 I will entertain a motion. 6 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Motion. 7 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I will second 8 it, 01 to 07. 9 MR. CIRILO: On the motion. 10 Commissioner Washington. 11 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 12 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 13 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 14 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 15 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 16 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 17 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 18 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 19 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 20 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 21 Mr. Chairman, the next resolution 22 reads resolution authorizing a three-month extension 23 from December 31, 2022 to March 31, 2023 for all NHA 24 personnel to utilize excess accrued vacation earned 25 in 2022. 46 1 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Motion. 2 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I will second 3 it. 4 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, on the 5 motion. 6 Commissioner Washington. 7 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 8 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 9 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 10 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 11 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 12 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 13 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 14 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 15 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 16 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 17 The next resolution reads adopting the 18 fiscal year 2023 annual operating and capital 19 budgets for the submission to the New Jersey 20 Division of Local Government Services. 21 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I'll move it. 22 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Second. 23 MR. CIRILO: On the motion. 24 Commissioner Washington. 25 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 47 1 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 2 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 3 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 4 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 5 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 6 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 7 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 8 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 9 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 10 The next resolution reads resolution 11 authorizing a contract with Silva's Mechanical 12 Services to furnish labor and materials to clean and 13 repair boilers agency wide as needed for an initial 14 term of one year at a cost of five hundred thousand 15 per year with options to renew for two additional 16 one year periods at the NHA's discretion in an 17 aggregate amount not to exceed three years or one 18 million five hundred thousand, whichever comes 19 first. 20 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Commissioner, 21 I want to say something about this if you allow me. 22 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 23 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Is Khalif 24 still here? Director, so my understanding is that 25 generally you would have came up and asked for two 48 1 hundred fifty thousand, but you asked for five 2 hundred thousand, right, to make sure that you don't 3 have to come back to us and no problem. 4 MR. THOMAS: Not just to come back, 5 just to be able to be more proactive on some of the 6 little repairs that you think is little that may 7 become big as that boiler runs twenty-four hours a 8 day, seven days a week. 9 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: No problem. 10 I'll move it. 11 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Second. 12 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, on the 13 motion. 14 Commissioner Washington. 15 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 16 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 17 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 18 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 19 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 20 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 21 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 22 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 23 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 24 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 25 The last resolution reads resolution 49 1 amending resolution H-17-23-03-01 and consent to the 2 assignment of a HAP contract by the Lantana Urban 3 Renewal, L.P. to Freddie Mac as securities in order 4 to facilitate the refinancing of the project's debt 5 and ensure the projects viability over the extended 6 term of the PBV contract. 7 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: I will move 8 it. 9 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Second. 10 MR. CIRILO: Mr. Chairman, on the 11 motion. 12 Commissioner Washington. 13 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 14 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 15 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 16 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 17 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 18 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 19 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 20 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 21 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 22 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 23 Mr. Chairman, that concludes the 24 resolution portion of the agenda. 25 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: We have to 50 1 make a motion to end that and then go back in. 2 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Make a motion to 3 adjourn. 4 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Got a motion. 5 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Second. 6 MR. CIRILO: On the motion to adjourn. 7 Commissioner Washington. 8 COMMISSIONER WASHINGTON: Yes. 9 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Council. 10 COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: Yes. 11 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Haqq. 12 COMMISSIONER HAQQ: Yes. 13 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Muhammad. 14 COMMISSIONER MUHAMMAD: Yes. 15 MR. CIRILO: Commissioner Logan. 16 COMMISSIONER LOGAN: Yes. 17 MR. CIRILO: Motion passes. 18 That concludes the regular meeting of 19 the Board. 20 21 (Whereupon, the proceedings were 22 concluded at 6:25 p.m.) 23 24 25 51 1 C E R T I F I C A T E 2 3 I, ANTHONY HOFMANN, a Certified Court 4 Reporter, and Notary Public within and for the State 5 of New Jersey, certify that the foregoing is a true 6 and accurate transcript of the stenographic notes of 7 said witness(es)who were first duly sworn by me, on 8 the date and place hereinbefore set forth. 9 10 11 12 ___________________________ ANTHONY HOFMANN, C.C.R. 13 LICENSE NO. XIO1854 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25